Tuesday, December 6, 2011

The Year is (almost) Over


Blog Portfolio Quarter 2

Coverage:


Depth:

  • I feel that in this blog I looked in depth at the parallels between Brett and Circe, using a variety of sources as a basis and then making my own interpretations. I believe I did a pretty thorough job, and it helped me (and hopefully others) to understand Brett and Hemingway's use of allusions.
Interaction:

  • Here I first picked a passage from The Sun Also Rises, analyzed it, and then shared it with James. Reading his response to his own passage and mine, I looked at his analysis and opinions. He disagreed with some of my interpretations, and I his, but I think we helped each other widen our view and see things that we hadn't seen before. I know that I learned a lot, and in this blog there was quite a bit of interaction.
Discussion:

  • Elizabeth commented on my blog, and she helped me out with two things- one, developing my analysis of Owen's Greater Love, pointing out things that I hadn't necessarily connected, and two, showing me that I need to make my thoughts clearer. I hadn't expanded on what I meant on an idea, and so when I replied to her comment, explaining what I meant, I realized that I tend to write a lot in a not so clear way at times. Also, the fact that this was my only comment also made me realize that sometimes I need to make my blogs a bit shorter, because lately I have been "babbling" a bit, making it tiresome for others to read my blog... Which is not what blogs are for! So next time, a little more clarity.
Xenoblogging:

  • This is Elizabeth's blog about Sassoon's Repression of War Experience. I found her analysis pretty good, with interesting interpretation. While I had similar ideas, in reading her blog I realized how the war poems, especially this one, paralleled with Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises. I brought this up, and I hope she found it interesting as I did.
Wildcard:

  • Since this is my English blog, I tend to blog about things that relate to what we're doing in class. After reading Regeneration, my mind was filled with a myriad of epiphanies that I just had to write down. They helped me understand The Sun Also Rises a lot better, and so I hoped that other people might find it beneficial as well.

Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Escape- of the war, or of death?

Escape by Robert Graves

Here's a picture of all the thoughts and notes I jotted down after reading it a couple of times. Hopefully later I'll be able to expand upon this.


I'm not sure in this poem if Graves wishes to escape from death, to survive, or if he wishes to escape from the war. I mean, he describes "Hell", and it doesn't seem to be that good of a place, but then he also describes it in a war-like manner- by this I mean that he has the same emotions as if he were in war. He doesn't like the army- all of his army weapons were taken away from him, and he's helpless: he doesn't want to "die for any one". I also noticed that there were parallels between him entering Hell and him undergoing treatment at a hospital, which is interesting. Anyways, these were my interpretations.

Nightmare 24-7

Trench Duty - Siegfried Sassoon

Shaken from sleep, and numbed and scarce awake,
Out in the trench with three hours' watch to take,
I blunder though the splashing mirk, and then
Hear the gruff muttering voices of the men
Crouching in cabins candle-chnked with light.
Hark! There's the big bombardment on our right
Rumbling and bumping; and the dark's a glare
Of flickering horror in the sectors where
We raid the Boche; men waiting, stiff and chilled,
Or crawling on their bellies through the wire.
'What? Stretcher-bearers wanted? Some one killed?'
Five minutes ago I heard a sniper fire:
Why did he do it? ... Starlight overhead-
Blank stars. I'm wide-awkae; and some chap's dead.

Sassoon's Trench Duty describes a dream where a soldier goes on for trench duty, falls asleep, and wakes up to find someone dead. Living near the border, the soldier experiences the nightmare of invading the enemy's territory. The soldier then wakes up to find that he's woken up to pretty much the same nightmare. I believe this poem is one that talks of the horror of World War I, showing that the nightmares that everyone may or may not have are a reality for the soldiers. This tone of fear is created with alliteration, harsh and violent diction, and the simplicity of the sentences.

The alliteration creates the mood of the war- noisy and dangerous. The sounds from the beginning to the end parallel those of the war: "Shaken from sleep, and numbed and scarce awake" contains a lot of "s" sounds, and there are many other sounds such as "muttering voices of the men", as well as the line, "crouching in the cabins candle-chinked with light". This is followed by words such as: "big bombardment", "rumbling and bumping". These repeated sounds recreated war noises- the "b", "mp", m", "s" along with many others are auditory images of bombs, rockets, guns, all the war weapons used. Thus, the alliteration makes the poem seem harsh, much like a nightmare.

The diction creates imagery of chaos and violence. Here are some words: "splashing mirk", "blunder", "gruff", "crouching", "the dark's a glare of flickering horror in the sectors", "stiff and chilled"... The list goes on. So these words work as visual imagery to show the chaos of war. And it is important to remember that these words are while the soldier is in a nightmare. So when the soldier wakes up, he wakes up to a nightmare and the same images that he had dreamt of. These words create a tone of fear which the soldier portrays. The sentences also rhyme, in the pattern: aabbccddefefgg, which make the poem run faster and thus more chaotic and non-stop: much like the war.

Then, there are the sentences. They are very simplistic, that is to say, the dialogue at the end where he wakes up. His questions resemble his confusion and fear: "'What? Stretcher-bearers wanted? Some one killed?'". The quickness of it is represented in his short sentences: "Five minutes ago I heard a sniper fire", "Starlight overhead- / Blank stars". His nightmare, of confusion, is both in his dreams and in the physical world.

The poem ends with "I'm wide-awake; and some chap's dead", which shows the blur of the dream world and the real world, making the reader wonder if it was a dream at all. Also, the question, "Why did he do it? ...." makes me think that the soldier who died may have killed himself- at night, where the nightmare exists both day and night.

So, I believe that Trench Duty by Siegfried Sassoon works to detail how the soldiers felt during the war, and what they went through.

World War I Poems- comparison

There are many similarities among the different World War I poems. In Robert Graves', A Dead Boche, and Arms and the Boy, by Wilfred Owen, the two poems complement each other and resemble many of the ideas behind World War I poems. [The two poems written at the bottom of this blog for your own reading pleasure]

One of the things World War I covers is the monstrosity of the war:

  • In these poems, I think that the two create an image not just of the monstrosity of the war, but how the people themselves are monsters, and have lost their moral balance
    • A Dead Boche (Robert Graves)
      • He begins with saying that he's found "a certain cure for lust of blood", already showing that many yearn for blood
      • Then, he describes something "propped against a shattered trunk", something that is unpleasant "in a great mess of things unclean".
        • It's described even more: "a dead Boche" - a German soldier
        • Some words:
          • "scowled and stunk"
          • "with clothes and face a sodden greeen,"
          • "big-bellied, spectacled, crop-haired"
          • "dribbling black blood from nose and beard"
        • While describing the German soldier, it seems that the Boche is the one who is mutilated and scary- but then if you think about it, the soldiers who dreamt of "blood and fame" are the ones who have done this. While the Boche may be scary, we [the soldiers] are the monsters who have done a lot of horrors.
    • Arms and the Boy (Wilfred Owen)
      • The beginning really characterizes the boy as someone who is kind of monstrous. I mean, the title, "arms and the boy" really introduces it. Arms, being weapons, and boy, being something that should be innocent. But he's not.
        • The boy has a "bayonet-blade", "keen with the hunger of blood", "blue with all malice", "like a madman's flash", " and thinly drawn with famishing for flesh". I mean, if that doesn't speak for itself, what does? The boy is defined as something that needs to kill.
        • Some other words:
          • "blind, blunt bullet-leads", "nuzzle in the hearts of lads", "cartridges of fine zinc teeth", "sharp with the sharpness of grief and death"
          • By "nuzzle in the hearts of lads" Owen compares innocent boys with those who participate in war- and how they have changed and how much war can change soldiers and make them brutal.


Another one is the contradiction between the glory and fame propaganda about the war and the actual ferociousness of it:



  • Almost all the poems we've read have had this idea, and how the soldiers join for glory but end up dying instead, and the world lives with a false ideal.
    • A Dead Boche (Robert Graves)
      • The poem begins with the false ideal and then proceeds to belittle it.
        • Graves quickly destroys the fallacy:
          • "songs of War", "hear of blood and fame" --> "'War's Hell!'"
          • alliteration and rhyme help here, because it makes the poem smooth and sing-songy, and so it contrasts the false tone with the true tone of war.
          • Also, by saying "you've heard it said before" he adds in how many feel this way. The "songs of War" are not really songs.
    • Arms and the Boy (Wilfred Owen)
      • This poem is actually the opposite, in the way that it begins with describing the boy as someone cruel, an war as an angry beast, and then ending with a last stanza on after telling the truth about the boy's actions, how he will be viewed at home.
      • He's not a monster, but a hero:
        • "there lurk no claws behind his fingers supple", "and God will grow no talons at his heels, nor antlers through the thickness of his curls"
        • Again, there is this rhyming pattern, which shows the iron. Expand upon it really, as he's already established the irony that the boy has done sad things and yet "God" is supporting him still.


There are a lot of allusions, usually:

  • There is also the idea of God, and whether or not he supports the war or not, or even exists. But at least there are always mentions of the actualities of war (eg. battles, or certain weapons/soldiers)
    • A Dead Boche (Robert Graves)
      • "Mametz Wood" is a battle led by the Welsh, which Graves was a part of
        • The Battle of Mametz Wood was part of the larger scheme of the Battle of Somme, the woods being one of the main areas of the Somme. So introducing this battle already gives a lot of connotation and tone of horror. Supposed to be quick, the soldiers were filled with hope before the battle and completely slaughtered b the end of it.
      • "Boche" --> It means German, and is an "offensive slang" according to dictionary.com. So this has a lot of connotations as well, to those who know the war: a Boche, initially considered the enemy and disrespectful, is not the monster...
    • Arms and the Boy (Wilfred Owen)
      • Well, there's God, obviously: "And God will grow no talons at his heels, nor antlers through the thickness of his curls"
        • Perhaps there is a more specific allusion in the bible or some other holy text, but the overall gist of it is that God does not consider the boy, who has committed a lot of atrocities, an animal, but a human: honorable and just.
      • Throughout the poem there are lots of connections to specific weapons-
        • "bayonet-blade" "blunt bullet-leads", "cartridges", "zinc teeth"
          • And so the poem brings this in to contrast with the purity of what boys usually represent.

So those are the ones that come to mind when I read these two poems.


A Dead Boche - Robert Graves


To you who'd read my songs of War
    And only hear of blood and fame,
I'll say (you've heard it said before)
    'War's Hell!' and if you doubt the same,
Today I found in Mametz Wood
A certain cure for lust of blood:

Where, propped against a shattered turnk,
    In a great mess of things unclean,
Sat a dead Boche; he scowled and stunk
    With clothes and face a sodden green,
Big bellied, spectacled, corp-haird,
Dribbling black blood from nose and beard.

Arms and the Boy - Wilfred Owen

Let the boy try along this bayonet-blade
How cold steel is, and keen with hunger of blood;
Blue with all malice, like a madman's flash;
And thinly drawn with famishing for flesh.

Lend him to stroke these blind, blunt bullet-leads
Which long to nuzzle in the hearts of lads,
Or give him cartridges of fine zinc teeth,
Sharp with the sharpness of grief and death.

For his teeth seem for laughing round an apple.
There lurk no claws behind his fingers supple;
And God will grow no talons at his heels,
Nor antlers through the thickness of his curls.

"Before the Mirror": A reflection of man to woman

In Swinburne's Before the Mirror, there are quite a few similarities between this poem and Owen's Greater Love. They both deal with estranged emotions, mainly love, and how between the genders they feel disconnected. However, the paths the two poems take differ as I feel Owen's poem speaks of the complete separation between the emotions of men and women, while in Swinburne he slightly covers this idea, but in the end suggests that both genders are similar because both of them have felt loss.

Below is a copy of my notes on Before the Mirror- I hope you enjoy, and if you want to see my thoughts on Greater Love to really compare the ideas, the link is right here: http://adrienne-hlenglish.blogspot.com/2011/11/wilfred-owens-greater-love-for-war.html

Some overall ideas I found in the poem (hopefully these will become clear upon reading the marked up poem at the bottom):

  • Similar to Greater Love
    • Things have changed since the war began- from naivety of love/ goodness to the actuality of love / badness
    • love is mysterious/unknown: soldiers don't really know what it is, only what they are told
    • Separation between women and soldiers, one of them doesn't belong
  • Different from Greater Love
    • Women have watched things pass/die: they have changed too, like the soldiers
    • the two may not be so different after all: there are sorrows for both genders
And I guess, the relevance of the title... hmm... Before the Mirror:

Okay, so a mirror is a reflection, a copy, and "before" implies that you're standing before it- so you're looking into a mirror, and seeing yourself: in the poem, there is something that resemblances this: "I watch my face, and wonder / at my bright hair". I thought at this point it was like the author didn't know himself. He was an alien to himself, didn't recognize himself. So maybe by the title, "Before the Mirror" the author meant that he was exploring an idea central to the soldier, and that when he looked into the mirror for answers, he saw himself. And this connects to the idea that both women and men suffered losses and emotions. The two are reflections of each other.

Marked-up version:









Monday, November 14, 2011

Wilfred Owen's "Greater Love"- for war

I've gathered from this poem that Owen is talking to his lover- the women out of the war, and how for him, he has lost his love for women because the war seems so much more important. Each stanza begins with words that are generally associated with a woman, and yet at the end of each stanza, they hold a grimmer tone. The rhyming helps link his, in the pattern a,a,b,b,b,a --> the inside "b" lines full of emotion of what has happened, surrounded by references/contrasts between women and war.

The first stanza begins with, "Red lips are not so red", automatically creating a compare and contrast between women and war. Each feature of the woman lacks the strength that the war had. "Red lips" are not as red as the "stained stones kissed by the English dead". The word "stained" serves to create that red color without saying it, comparing it to the red lips of a woman, and then "kissed by the English dead" develops the contrast, saying that the dead dying are much more touching and emotional. Owen talks directly to a woman- "O Love, your eyes lose lure". The next stanza follows the same format- beginning with "Your slender attitude", creating the figure of a woman and her personality, which is not so striking as "limbs knife-skewed". Each characteristic of women, "Your voice sings not so soft", "Heart", "dear voice", "though your hand be pale", is belittled by the war, and small in comparison. The voice of the "wind murmuring" and the silence of those who once coughed is more memorable. In a way, Owen is blaming the love that the soldiers feel for the ones safe at home. The women are what the soldiers are fighting for, and though they "trail your cross through flame and hail", they die. And so Owen is perhaps commenting on how the fierceness of the war overbears whatever attributes women have. Whatever women may do- sing, or send their love, it matters not because they are no comfort to war.

Owen also blames a bit of God- those whose limbs are "knife-skewed, rolling and rolling there where God seems not to care" reveals the idea that the soldiers at war are alone- away from faith and love, and although they believe in it, "Till the fierce love they bear", this eventually leads to their fate- "cramps them in death's extreme decrepitude." The contrast, from "fierce love" to "decrepitude", reveals the sudden change of the emotions soldiers go through. They volunteer, they fight for what they believe in, but quickly the sights that they see, the deaths they witness, have taken that away- and they feel alone. "Decrepitude" gives the meaning of tired, worn out, and abandoned- much like the soldiers feel.

The title of the poem, "Greater Love", speaks of the loss of the love they once had- of women, of God, of glory- and their newfound purpose. Owen speaks of war both as something of awe and something of horror. The phrase, "Now earth has stopped their piteous mouths that coughed" gives a fearful feeling, but it also adds a bit of holiness to the war- the "earth has stopped" gives the idea of a greater power, and a righteousness in ending the pain "piteous" soldiers had gone through. By this, I think Owen is making the point that the soldier's ideas of love has been warped- a woman's voice is the "wind murmuring" representing those "whom none now hear", and how a heart beats harder not because of a girl but because they've been shot. By "Greater Love", Owen does not mean he love's the war, but that he feels much more duty, emotion, and connection to war and his fellow soldiers than he does back in his own country.

As an interesting note, in one of my previous blogs I mentioned how in "Regeneration" there is a scene where one of the soldiers in the hospital mentions that war sometimes feels "sexy", and I wonder if this could have anything to do with the comparison of women to war.

Thursday, November 10, 2011

Repression of War Experience: Quick commentary

Siegfried Sassoon's Repression of War Experience is, I believe, a poem chronicling his conflict between not believing in the war and needing to return to it, as he talks to himself. Out of the war zone, his thoughts ramble as he doesn't know what to think about anymore, like a bad song in your head. The sentences throughout the poem are long, as if he is trying to distract himself from thinking about the war, picking up on anything but that.

The poem begins with a moth- a "silly beggar" that gets too close to the flame. This could be a metaphor for what Sassoon feels, and what soldiers in the war do; they volunteer because they think they need some purpose, or that it is their duty, or for glory, and in a way they are begging to be told what to do. However, as they go too close to what they want, the "glory, liquid flame", they "scorch their wings", meaning that they die in war. Right away Sassoon says, "no, no, not that,-- it's bad to think of the war", and so we can see that he doesn't want to dwell on this. He "gagged" them all day, showing that war, as a bad song stuck in your mind does, keeps coming back and he can't get rid of it. "Gagged" gives the impression of throwing up- something he probably wanted to do when thinking of war. And he doesn't want to think about it for fear of becoming one of the ones who "jabber among the trees". He needs to be in "control" of those "ugly thoughts". When he says, "it's been proved that soldiers don't go mad", it almost seems like this is something he's been told- and thus these two contrasting ideas (for and against the war) are at play. Away from war, Sassoon isn't sure what he believes in, and he doesn't want to think about it because he kind of knows that he may drive himself craz.

The next stanza deals with him using all these techniques to calm down and take his mind off the war- but again, it seems as if he's repeating what someone else had said: "draw a deep breath; stop thinking, count fifteen, and you're as right as rain".  This doesn't work, as his mind runs on and goes off on a bunch of tangents. He doesn't know what he should think, and he can't come down and relax, because he has to distract himself from thinking about the war- he asks, "why won't it rain?", wishing for "thunder-storm tonight". It looks as if Sassoon wishes to be back at war- where there is thunder, and sadness where the roses hang their dripping heads, and he can empty out the trenches "with bucketsful of water to sluice the dark". This action of sluicing the dark I think mirrors one where you would be frantically trying to drain the trench you are in, covered in mud, and throwing it out where it is pitch black at night.

Sassoon then tries to distract himself again- he mentions books. By contrasting these two moods one after the other, it becomes clear that he goes back and forth with what he thinks about the war, and that his mind is lost: "Books; what a jolly company they are, standing so quiet and patient on their shelves, dressed in dim brown, and black, and white, and green, and every kind of colour". He enjoys books because they are filled with stories not about war, but are "quiet and patient"; they are "jolly company" opposed to the horrible war. By listing all the colors, joined with "and" and then at the end "every kind of colour", it creates the mood that he is just thinking about everything he sees in an attempt to not think about the war. When he asks, "which will you read?", and then, "O do read something" I think he is talking to himself, trying to get himself to concentrate on something or feel better.

When next he says "I tell you all the wisdom of the world is waiting for you on those shelves;" this is followed by "and yet you sit and gnaw your nails, and let your pipe out, and listen to the silence". If he's talking to himself, this clearly demonstrates his two conflicting thoughts- one where he wants to forget about the war and delve into the wisdom of books, and another where he cannot let the war go. His mood is reflected yet a gain with the metaphor of the moth, as there is "one big, dizzy moth that bumps and flutters"- much like him, the moth has gone around in circles. He is dizzy from thinking fast and yet not thinking at all, and he is as fluttery as a moth in this situation. Outside, "the garden waits for something that delays", and I think this too reveals that he is waiting for something. What he is waiting for becomes clear after the next few lines: "there must be crowds of hosts among the trees,- not people killed in battle, [...] but horrible shapes in shrouds- old men who died slow, natural deaths, - old men with ugly souls, who wore their bodies out with nasty sins". Sassoon holds distaste not for soldiers taking part in the war, but for those who didn't- those are the ones who lived long lives, and died slow, natural deaths- something that many soldiers were denied. Sassoon probably feels resentment that some escaped from the war, not upholding their duty to protect other soldiers. In Regeneration by Pat Barker, Sassoon goes to a medical hospital because he protested against the war, but joins the war in the end not because he believes in the war, but because he could not leave his men behind. I think this is the case- while he is struggling with what he believes about the war, the fact remains that he misses it, and he feels that people need him. The garden could be waiting for someone to use it, as he is- Sassoon is waiting for his orders to return to the war.

The last stanza is one where Sassoon speaks directly to himself, "You're quiet and peaceful, summering safe at home". In one way, he's trying to calm himself down, trying to be like what "normal" people, citizens, feel at home. However, he cannot successfully do this because he knows that a war is going on, and he has a duty to fight- "You'd never think there was a bloody war on!..." Sassoon is angered that where he is is so "safe" and "peaceful": he can't just forget about, no matter how hard he has tried. When he says to himself, "O yes, you would", instead of talking about anyone not knowing there was a war on, he says to himself, "O yes" as if it was obvious that he would hear it. He knows that as a soldier, he is different from citizens. In Regeneration, Sassoon expresses a certain distaste for those who were not a part of the war and did not understand it- he felt separated from his own home. Here it is the same- he is surrounded by harmless things- books, moths, clear skies- but anything he thinks about brings him back to the war. "Why, you can hear the guns. Hark! Thud, thud, thud,- quite soft... they never cease- those whispering guns- O Christ, I want to go out and screech at them to stop- I'm going crazy; I'm going stark, staring mad because of the guns". While this is only one sentence, he says only phrases in short bursts, showing that he's losing control, and the guns are ever prevalent in his mind, no matter where he is. While he tried to distract himself, he was unsuccessful, and the guns "never cease" that he tenses up- he wants to "screech at them to stop" as he gets angry and loses control. And he finally realizes- the combination of trying to keep everything in, wanting to be in the war, not wanting to be in the war, the rising tension, has made him want to explode. The repetition of the "s" and the "sh" sounds- "soft", "cease", "whispering", "Christ", "screech", "stop", "crazy", "stark", "staring"- reveal the growing pressure within him.

So overall, the poem is him regressing back to his war experience; even though he is out of the war zone, he can never completely leave it. The guns "never cease", and this causes a conflict within him between knowing the horror of the war (eg. parallel to moth's life and "ugly thoughts"), and knowing that there are people out there dying and he should be there too (eg. the crowds of ghosts of those who didn't die from war, something shameful in Sassoon's eyes).

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Bough of Nonsense- nonsense indeed

When I say "nonsense indeed", I don't mean it is nonsense- although I may have thought that at first. The poem deals with nonsense, and the way I look at it, it is where Graves talks to himself figuring out that the war is nonsense, and if you think otherwise, well, then that's nonsense (if that makes sense).

So basically, I figured that R. was Robert Graves and S. was Siegfried Sassoon. I think these two are the ones talking with each other not only because they were pretty close and fought together, but because of the relationship the two have. Sassoon was against the war, and I think this poem talks about how nonsensical the war was and it is pretty anti-war-ish. The two learn from each other that the war is not what everyone says it is- it is not something to make sense of (for instance when they talk about the temple dedicated to Sense, and how the roof has come crashing down), but something that is nonsense. I interpreted the temples both as something based on faith (and thus faith has been destroyed) as well as the belief/worship in war (as that has toppled as well). I think is interesting that the poem suggested that if one tried to make sense of the war, using sanity, one would go insane- but as soon as one accepts the nonsense, you reach a certain peace. This is why I think "An Idyll" appears after the title. While the poem is certainly not "a picturesque scene", it is in the context of the war, and in the fact that unlike many other soldiers, it seems as if Sassoon and Robert Graves have reached a restfulness and tranquility- a balance to the chaos of the war. I've analyzed it deeper in the pictures below. There is this constant contrast between what the war is viewed as (or the normality of what it should be eg. worshiped) vs. the nonsense of it (that war in fact is not normal, and that there are skulls and flowers and there is not much difference between the two). So as you look through my thoughts further down, I think I look at the different elements which help create this idea.

Here are some detailed notes I took- following my thoughts and stuff. I think it's pretty readable.






Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Bulls and steers, all that fun stuff.

Bulls and steers are a major theme in The Sun Also Rises. Not only does each bullfight parallel the events among the group Jake belongs to, but through the description of the bullfights and the way it is written, the relationships between bull, steer, and bullfighter symbolize those of Jake, Brett, Mike, Bill and Cohn.

"The bull, striking into the wood from side to side with his horns, made a great noice. Then I saw a dark muzzle and the shadow of horns, and then, with a clattering on the wood in the hollow box, the bull charged and came out into the corral, [...] his head up, the great hump of muscle on his neck swollen tight, his body quivering as he looked up at the crowd on the stone walls. The two steers backed away against the wall, their heads sunken, their eyes watching the bull" (Hemingway, 143)

This is the first scene describing the bulls and steers. The steers are separate from the bulls, but wish to join them, although they fear the bulls as well. The bulls, on the other hand, are raging creatures who at first attack the steers. In a short paragraph at this website, the connection between sexuality and bull-fighting is made. The bulls represent masculinity, and are described in a sexual manner. So who is a bull? At first, I thought Cohn might be the bull, when Jake describes one as having "a left and a right just like a boxer" (144). However, when a bull pierces one of the steers, and in the end, when "the steer who had been gored had gotten to his feet [...] none of the bulls came near him, and he did not attempt to join the herd" (145). So in this case, Cohn is the steer who failed in his job. I think that it is important that the relationship between a boxer and a bull is made, because it characterizes Cohn. Although Cohn has the physicality of a bull, mentally he does not fit in and this is what creates his situation. He is ostracized and hated by pretty much everyone due to his beliefs. Cohn's resemblance of a steer is clarified when Mike calls him one. Cohn tries too hard to join the herd, to belong; and when he goes too far, he is left out of the group entirely.

The other steer during the running of the bulls would be Jake, I think. For he doesn't belong with the masculinity and sexuality of the bulls, and his body is weak, but he knows how to join the herd. He hangs around people who are more sexually capable than himself, and he replicates a bit of masculinity- enough to join the herd. Actually, this can be compared to Cohn's un-masculinity, how he doesn't fit in with the mindset of it- he never drinks. In the first scene, the steer who would represent Jake is described: "When the next bull came out, all three, the two bull and the steer, stood together, their heads side by side, their horns against the newcomer. In a few minutes the steer picked the new bull up, quieted him down, and made him one of the herd" (145). Not only does Jake join the herd, but he helps steer the bulls- he quiets them, he helps them join together too. This parallels how Jake brought all of them together, and that he is the only one who knew all of the characters before the trip. Also, when Mike starts blabbing towards Cohn about how annoying he is, Jake is the one who will talk to Cohn later. By this the bulls are Mike and Bill, who are strong physically and a part of the group.

So then, who is Brett? In the one scene where Romero kills a bull, not only the bulls are characterized but the bull-fighter: "Romero spoke to the bull and tapped one of his feet. The bull charged and Romero waited for the charge, the muleta held low, sighting along the blade, his feet firm. Then without taking a step forward, he became one with the bull, the sword was in high between the shoulders, the bull had followed the low-swung flannel, that disappeared as Romero lurched clear to the left, and it was over" (224). Brett is much like Romero. She manipulates the bulls, makes them run after her, displaying her flannel (which I think is her beauty) but eventually she ends her sexuality and "kills" those who love her. By this I mean that Brett continually moves from one person to the next, always killing her relationships. She is in control of her life, and she manipulates others. She displays her sexuality for the whole world to see, as Romero does with his bull-fighting. All the men run after her, and in the end, it is their own momentum they create in running after her that kills them. Brett holds the sword, but it is the men that put themselves on it, as the bulls do as they run at the sword.

The only thing I'm not sure about is that Bill does not run after Brett. He does like women, but he doesn't make a fool of himself as everyone else does. Bill helps people get along, sort of like Jake, and so at first I thought he was a steer. But he is a part of the group. But does that make him the blind bull that Romero had trouble with? It sort of makes sense, as during this bull fight Romero is shown in a bad light. Those who do not understand find it distasteful, and all of his pain from the fight with Cohn shown through. Bill, in a way, sees through Brett's sexuality due to witnessing Jake's pain, and perhaps shows her in a bad light. However, Brett doesn't actually "kill" Bill as she does others...

The Top Ten Reasons Why You Want to Be Jake

1. You like to silently insult others to feel better about yourself.
2. You only relate to ex-soldiers.
3. You want to get what you pay for.
4. You like to keep your friendships on convenience.
5. You want to enter the friend zone.
6. You want to observe but not participate.
7. You need to feel like a man.
8. You love bull-fighting.
9. You like to passively socialize in order to remain detached from yourself and others.
10. You like to actively pursue not doing anything.

Monday, October 31, 2011

Random thoughts with Regeneration and The Sun Also Rises

Reading Regeneration by Pat Barker after Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises brings a lot of epiphanies (that word looks a little funny) when I was reading it. The novel takes place in a medical hospital for mental problems in soldiers, which is interesting because I think I learnt more about the war in this setting outside of the war than I would have reading something with a bunch of battles and gunfights. More than that, Barker's novel allowed me to understand a bit more the characters within Hemingway's novel. I have to admit, sometimes I didn't quite understand what some of the characters were talking about, but now I feel that I understand them all a bit better- and not only the ex-soldiers involved in the war, but the women as well.

Here are some quotes and ideas from Regeneration that really made me connect to The Sun Also Rises. Feel free to read some of them, all of them, or none of them.

Mindset of the soldiers in war:

"He was feeling distinctly cheerful. Exactly the same feeling he had had on boardship going to France, watching England slide away into the mist. No doubts, no scruples, no agonizing, just a straightforward, headlong retreat towards the front" (Barker, 248).

  • So there is this clear connection about having a clear goal, much like Jake likes to have, where there are no doubts. Here the character, Sassoon, likes war because he knows his purpose and who he is. Jake, on the other hand, misses the war because he is lost without it.
  • But what I found particularly interesting is that Sassoon says, "retreat towards the front". It's almost as if he isn't going somewhere, but running away from something. One of the ideas in this novel is that people weren't fighting the war because they wanted to kill, but because they felt a duty to their country and/or their comrades who were also fighting. The soldiers were unsure about a lot of things, but pretty much everyone still believed that the war was worth fighting- they just weren't sure why. Pacifists are looked down upon by everyone. I think here, Sassoon "retreats" from his normal life- he's running away from all his problems, and going to something that was clear, where he didn't have to think too much. Perhaps Jake is lost because he can't run away from his problems? In the war there was a strict structure they had to follow. In the world Jake currently lives in, it seems a bit chaotic. Anyways, I think the word "retreat" gives a lot of insight into the mindset of some soldiers.
Attitude of soldiers away from war and their relationship with non-soldiers

Sassoon also says some other things which might give some understanding to Jake:
  • Talking with Rivers, the doctor, we discover that Sasson has cut himself off from the army, "the only place I've [Sassoon] ever really belonged" (36).
  • This has led him to isolation. Sassoon "can't talk to anybody" (36).
  • But he talks with Rivers, the doctor, because he doesn't "say stupid things" (36).
    • I think these things combined can help us understand why Jake is who he is. Jake is isolated, and he doesn't talk much at all.
  • Then a little bit later, Rivers asks Sassoon if he "might find being safe while other people die rather difficult" (36). To which Sassoon replies, "Nobody else in this stinking country seems to find it difficult. I expect I'll just learn to live with it. Like everybody else" (36).
    • Another thing throughout the novel is this general hatred towards civilians who know nothing about the war. Many of the soldiers dislike them, because they have not experienced the harshness, and are still gung-ho for the whole idea. Especially for those in the medical ward, who have suffered through quite gruesome events that put them there in the first place, many soldiers feel separated from all the other people; they feel they are not understood, and they resent that. There is this them and us. Soldiers even feel distant from their family- their fathers and mothers don't quite understand what their children have gone through, and they come off more as annoying than caring.
Women during the war:

I was impressed by how expansive the effect of the war was. Soldiers, doctors, even women all felt a certain doubt about the war. Speaking of women, a relationship between a soldier (within the mental hospital) and a woman helps me understand Brett. The women during the war have actually felt a new kind of freedom- they are being paid more, their husbands (who may or may not be mean) are gone, and they feel in power of their own lives. And in respect to love, the woman in the relationship, Sarah, is both careful and reckless. I think Sarah is distrustful of men, and has lost the idea of this "romantic love" just as Brett has. Brett no longer believes in monagamy, maybe because she has seen men do the same thing she does and has gotten tired of caring about it. During the war, it seems the attitude among the women was one where they got a little tougher in the way that they thought- the traditional woman was considered weak, and they felt like they had to do everything themselves.

Some short random stuff that may spark some thought:

  • Another thing I found interesting was how Rivers (the medical doctor) tells people that it is not one event that puts someone off the edge, but it is an erosion over time.
  • Entirely separate from the above, I noticed that a lot of soldiers spoke in detached sentences, and one of them said they felt like it was happening to someone else. I wonder if that's what Jake kind of feels like?
  • Soldiers get a lot of nightmares at night, which I think parallels Jake's realization that at night it's hard to ignore his problems.
Sexuality:

Prior, another soldier in the mental hospital, describes a battle. He talks about getting bombed at, shelled at, then walking in a straight line in broad daylight towards enemy lines. When asked about what he felt, he says, "'It felt...' Prior started to smile again. 'Sexy.' [...] 'You know those men who lurk around in bushes waiting to jump out on unsuspecting ladies and - er-um - display their equipment? It felt a bit like that. A bit like I imagine that feels. I wouldn't like you to think that I had any personal experience" (78).

Any thought in relation to The Sun Also Rises?

Masculinity:

"'I mean, there was the riding, hunting, cricketing me, and then there was the... the other side... that was interested in poetry and music, and things like that. And i didn't seem able to ...' He laced his fingers. 'Knot them together.'" (35).

For soldiers as well, there was this definition of manhood- the hunting, the riding, the adventurousness. But quite a few soldiers had a thoughtful side to them, where they wrote a lot of poetry. Intriguing, however, is the fact that out of the war, when they were recovering from a wound or something, is when they wrote their poems. There's no time between battles to do that kind of thing. Writing and creativity is something that runs throughout the novel in The Sun Also Rises- hmm...

There's this one scene that's kind of freaky and peaceful at the same time (page 39), I might analyze it a bit later- any thoughts?:

"Looking up, he saw that the tree he stood under was laden with dead animals. bore them like fruit. A whole branch of moles in various stages of decay, a ferret, a weasel, three magpies, a fox, the fox hanging quite close, its lips curled back from bloodied teeth.

He started to run, but the trees were against him. Branches clipped his face, twigs tore at him, roots tripped him. Once he was sent sprawling, though immediately he was up again, and running, his coat a mess of mud and dead leaves.

Out in the field, splashing along the flooded furrows, he heard Rivers's voice, as distinctly as he sometimes hear it in dreams: If you run know, you'll never stop.

He turned and went back, though he knew the voice was only a voice in his head, and that the real Rivers might equally well have said: Get away from here. He stood again in front of the tree. Now that he was calmer, he remembered that he'd seen trees like this before. The animals were not nailed to it, as they sometimes were, but tie, by wings or paws or tails. He started to release a magpie, his teeth chattering as a wing came away in his hand. Then the other magpies, the fox, the weasel, the ferret and the moles.

When all the corpses were on the ground, he arranged them in a circle round the tree and sat down within it, his back against the trunk. He felt the roughness of the bark against his knobbly spine. He pressed his hands between his knees and looked around the circle of his companions. Now they could dissolve into the earth as they were meant to do. He felt a great urge to lie down beside them, but his clothes separated him. He got up and started to get undressed. When he'd finished, he looked down at himself. His naked body was white as a root. He cupped his genitals in his hands, not because he was ashamed, but because he looked incongruous, they didn't seem to belong with the rest of him. Then he folded his clothes carefully and put them outside the circle. He sat down again with his back to the tree and looked up through the tracery of branches at grey and scudding clouds.

The sky darkened, the air grew colder, but he didn't mind. It didn't occur to him to move. This was the right place. This was where he had wanted to be.

Thursday, October 20, 2011

Dear Abby Responses from Characters in "The Sun Also Rises"


Here are two Dear Abby letters and responses- I couldn't decide what to write so I just did a little of both. I followed a theme in both responses where the two characters were trying to convince themselves that what they had done in their life was right, instead of what they might have said if they were trying to save the people some trouble. I think I took the characters from midway in the novel, rather than the end (which might cause them to answer these letters differently).
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Dear Abby:
I'm a single man, in my mid-forties, an Air Force Academy graduate and former officer, who has never been married. I fell in love with a divorced mother of two who told me while we were dating that for the last 10 years she'd been having an affair with a married man I'll call "Rex." She left her husband because Rex promised he'd leave his wife and marry her, but he reneged -- so they met twice a week for sex. Rex worked nearby and would stop over during his lunch break. She told me all this while I was seeing her.
She finally broke it off about six months ago, saying she knew Rex was no good for her. Subsequently, I gave a job in my business, and she has turned out to be an excellent employee. Well, she recently confided to me that Rex came over during Easter and they'd had sex.
Abby, this woman is extremely bright. She's a wonderful mother to her daughters, a great worker, yet she lives like someone who's still in college and accountable to no one. She says she's not proud of what she does, bus she continues to do it. We no longer date, but I still have strong feelings for her. Does this make me nuts too? How can I help her? how can I break the spell he has cast over her? 
Mind-Boggled in Cincinnati 

Dear Mind-Boggled,

You are definitely nuts. Why do you want to help her become someone she’s not? She is accountable to no one. You have to follow your philosophy: we all pay in the end. Just because she has sex with other people and she tells you about it which makes you jealous and angry and she treats you like you’re no one, and tells you she loves you but then doesn’t do anything about it, and you don’t know who you are because of it doesn’t mean that she has to change. People are who they are- if she doesn’t want to marry you, why make a problem bigger? Love is meaningless. What rot! That’s life: this woman owes nothing to you. So you love her- what good does that do? There is no magical “spell” that makes a woman love you- believe me. It’s just sex. It doesn’t mean anything to her, why should it mean anything to you? Have you ever considered she doesn’t want to marry you because she’s not proud of what she does? Women are complicated- don’t get too hung up on people; they all die in the end anyways. Everyone comes with baggage. There's always one thing or another that they have. She's got two children for god's sake. It's just trouble. Love means nothing.  What the hell. Don’t get tight. Just accept the way things are. Don't think about it.

Jake
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Dear Abby:
I am 37, never married, and have never even dated much. I am quiet, shy, overweight and plain. I have been seeing a man who is 42 years old, and has also never been married. He has proposed, but I haven't given him an answer because I don't hink I really love him. He is very good to me and treats me like a queen, but there is absolutely no spark. (There's also no sex. He's impotent and has no plans to do anything about it.)
My question is: Do I marry him and "settle," just to be married, or do I live the rest of my life alone? Is it better to take this chance and marry my best friend, or should I wait for a Prince Charming who might never arrive?
 Wavering in the Midwest

Dear indecisive fool,

I’d say get married. I mean, if you guys can talk and get along that’s fine. You can always have sex with someone else. I’m sure he’d understand, right? Seriously, if you change your mind later, and find someone else, just get a divorce! But let me tell you, there’s no Prince Charming. What rot! There’s always rather some fault or another. Don’t worry about love. It just makes things more complicated. Go with what’s easy- there’s fewer problems that way. Love! What rot! If he treats you nice, then I say keep it. Love isn’t what you’re looking for in a marriage. Have fun, drink. Love’s the problem. If you loved him, I’d say don’t marry him. It would just cause more problems. What rot! You should be married at least once, I think. It makes things easier. Just make sure you like him. If he is annoying, and follows you around everywhere, it can get tiresome. But then you can always divorce him later. Don’t worry about the future- spend what you have now; you can always get more later. Marriage isn’t that important.

Brett

Monday, October 17, 2011

Brett and Circe


I was reading the story of Circe in the library, and since I was looking for it, a lot of similarities came up with Brett from The Sun Also Rises. Circe is a witch who trapped Odysseus’ men and turned them into pigs, but then fell in love with Odysseus who remained immune to her magical powers due to Hermes’ antidote. Circe frees all of the men and they remain on the island until Odysseus decides to leave. She ends up helping him in the end, telling him his next path in the journey- although this is the Underworld, so it’s not a great place. She lives on an island, in control over her victims, a mistress to her land. She has tamed animals, and lives with a bunch of nymphs. When Odysseus comes, she tries and gives him everything he desired (but freedom), and holds onto him quite tightly. She poisons people with a drink before she touches them with her wand.

Brett is much the same. She sort of lives alone in her own world- not that she may want to, but everyone treats her differently. For instance, in Spain, Brett attracts the attention of not only men, but also women: “The woman standing in the door of the wine-shop looked at us as we passed. She called to some one in the house and three girls came to the window and stared. They were staring at Brett” (142). Brett is separate from other women, and hangs around mostly guys, as Circe does around Odysseus and his men. She has control over these men- she being both Circe and Brett. With her beauty and her “magic” (in Brett’s case, I think her independent and elegant atmosphere), both of them have power over their “victims”, the people whom they turn into swine. Cohn in The Sun Also Rises makes this direct connection: “'He calls here Circe,’ Mike said. ‘He claims she turns men into swine’” (148). While Brett does not literally turn men into animals, she does bring out the worst in people. In an essay I read, the author describes:

“Cohn engages in brawls with a number of Brett’s other lovers, including Mike, Romero, and even his close friend, Jake Barnes. Brett weakens men by heightening their desires, turning men into animals and against each other, like Circe. In doing so, Brett strips them of their masculine unity. She sleeps around, though one man at a time, performing sexually as a man would stereotypically do, turning the men in her path into hopeless monogamist saps.”

While this may be a bit harsh, I do think there is a point made here; what I find particularly interesting is the idea that “Brett strips them of their masculine unity”. And it’s somewhat true. Brett is “one of the guys”, and in doing this she may make some of the friends question who they are. She pits the men against one another, Cohn and Jake fighting, Mike and Cohn fighting- in fact, it is only Bill who seems immune to her “powers”. I wonder why that is.

The difference between Circe and Brett is that Circe only fell in love with one man, while Brett debatably falls in love numerous times. However, both of them have a certain hatred for love and attachment, and yet both of them fall pray to it.

I’m not sure where Brett would parallel the part where Circe helps Odysseus move on with his life. I mean, assuming that Odysseus is Jake, the author of the essay mentioned above says something to the contrary:

“Brett specifically targets Jake, though certainly not with malicious intent. In the ending scene, Brett presses aggressively into Jake as she speculates about what they could have had, taunting him with unattainable love as well as her bodily presence. Assuming the masculine role Jake is unable to fill, Brett emasculates Jake psychologically."

Brett certainly in the end makes Jake tumble off the cliff. He finally gets really drunk when Brett goes off with Romero, and admits that he is “tight” (227) for the first time. More than that, after he is all alone he goes back to Paris and returns to the philosophy about paying what you get- for example he spends a lot of money so he can get a lot of friends. He seems to be a lot less sure of himself, and feels the need for people to like him. In a way, he is emasculated. Brett, unknowingly or not, “taunts” Jake. I noticed as I read a version of Circe’s story, however, that Odysseus helps Circe just as much as she helps him. Before, Circe had a “dark past” where I gathered that she was married earlier or something, which is paralleled with Brett’s lost love. In the end of The Sun Also Rises, I think Brett realizes that she isn’t that great of a person. She mentions how Romero wanted her to get “more womanly” (246), and then she starts to cry: “’I’m thirty-four, you know. I’m not going to be one of these bitches that ruins children” (247). Here she knows that she shouldn’t ever marry, that she doesn’t want to ruin people’s lives. In fact, she goes back to Mike not only because “he’s so damned nice” (247) but also because “he’s so awful” (247). So he’s right for her because she doesn’t have to mind hurting him sometimes. She feels happy, because of Jake, and so I think Jake has helped her a bit. At the end, however, where she says “’we could have had such a damned good time together’” (251) and Jake replies, “’Isn’t it pretty to think so?’” (251), I’m not sure if Jake believes her or not. Or that he’s let go/accepted his love. So as to whether Brett helps Jake move on with his life, I can’t tell. I mean, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a happy happy ending, since Odysseus after leaving Circe goes to the Underworld, but hey. While Jake may not be immune, she doesn’t harm him as she does everyone else, that is to say, Brett makes fun of everyone but Jake.

To add onto the similarities between Circe and Brett, they both have “nobility” in them. Circe is the daughter of Perse and Helios, so she has some God blood in her. And Brett is Lady Ashley. To add onto this, they both have a positive and negative connotation to them. Circe is beautiful, elegant, and goddess-like, yet a witch, just as Brett is both beautiful and promiscuous. On a side note, one of the books I was reading talked about Circe’s enchanting eyes, which reminded me of how Brett’s eyes always crinkle- I wonder why? There is also a similar element- the poisonous drink. Circe gives a toxic drink to her guests right before she transforms them, and Brett- well, she drinks a lot. Odysseus’ men first go to Circe’s island for food and shelter, and I think men flock to Brett because they think she is perfect (Cohn, for instance, won’t accept any bad words about her). Brett has class, and everyone loves her- yet she may do more harm than good. Now that I think about it, most of the conflicts that arise surround Brett, but never include her. Cohn might actually not be so annoying if Brett wasn't there. And all the other tensions exist, I think, because of her.

Anyways, that’s a lot of Circe and Brett.

Sources:
  1. Atsma, Aaron J. "Kirke." Theoi Greek Mythology. 2011. Web. 16 Oct. 2011.<http://www.theoi.com/Titan/Kirke.html>.
  2. Lahrmann, Jessica E. "Metaphorical Illness in Hemingway's Works." Diss. University of Pennsylvania, 2006. Print.
  3. Mangum, Marc. "Circe." Encyclopedia Mythica. 26 May 1999. Web. 16 Oct. 2011. <http://www.pantheon.org/articles/c/circe.html>.

Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Thoughts on "The Sun Also Rises"

Excerpt from The Sun Also Rises by Hemingway: Chapter 2, page 19


"'Listen, Jake,' he leaned forward on the bar. 'Don't you ever get the feeling that all your life is going by and you're not taking advantage of it? Do you realize you've lived nearly half the time you have to live already?'
'Yes, every once in a while.'
'Do you know that in about thirty-five years more we'll be dead?'
'What the hell, Robert,' I said. 'What the hell.'
'I'm serious.'
'It's one thing I don't worry about,' I said.
'You ought to.'
'I've had plenty to worry about one time or other. I'm through worrying.'
'Well, I want to go to South America.'
'Listen, Robert, going to another country doesn't make any difference. I've tried all that. You can't get away from yourself by moving from one place to another. There's nothing to that.'
'But you've never been to South America.'
'South America hell! If you went there the way you feel now it would be exactly the same. This is a good town. Why don't you start living your life in Paris?'"
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This passage I believe introduces a lot of central things of the novel: characterization of Jake and Cohn, the "lost generation", the idea of escaping, and problems, and lots of things... The things I've looked at is more what they are talking about.


I think this passage is a bit different from others because usually Jake is just an observer and talks very little with little emotions or ideas that would normally keep a conversation going. But here he voices an opinion, one that is actually quite emotional. I mean, we see that he's tried to get away from himself, and that it's not possible. He also doesn't want to think about living/dying, when he answers Cohn's question about living half the life they've lived already with "what the hell"- and he says it twice. In fact, when he says that "it's the one thing I don't worry about", we know that he doesn't mind dying- it's the living part that he's not so sure about. Also, at the end where he says "why don't you start living your life in Paris?" it's a little ironic, since I'm not really sure he's living his life in Paris, but perhaps it speaks to how he doesn't really care where he lives, or that he lives? I'm not sure.


And Cohn, well, he seems to be having a kind of mid-life crisis, wanting to do something worthwhile. Throughout the novel, I noticed that Cohn is always trying to show his masculinity, or just wanting appreciation. He doesn't care whether he wins any bets or anything, just so long as he is not someone to be pitied or cast aside. So here he wants to go to South America, an idea he got from the Purple Land, where this guy did a lot of memorable things, and he wants to do the same thing. This foreshadows his character in the future. How Cohn lives his life: "all your life is going by and you're not taking advantage of it", is much like everyone else- they are all watching their life go by, and not actually doing anything. What's interesting is that Cohn is the only one who really admits this. Which kind of ties into the lost generation: they are like this.


 Also, what Jake says, "'You can't get away from yourself by moving from one place to another. There's nothing to that.'" is what people do, as a part of the lost generation. Jake meets a lot of people throughout the novel, sometimes small characters for a short time period. Each of these characters are different, and react differently, but it seems as if they are all avoiding one part of their lives. For instance, Harris, the person who Jake and Bill fish with, won't leave the comfort of his fishing place and go to the city. He's avoiding a lot of contact with people. All the main characters are doing the same thing. Cohn is ignoring the fact that he is wanted by practically everyone, and Brett flees from commitment- for example, after she's done with Romero she leaves him immediately, and goes to and from Mike.


So I guess this passage is different because there's a lot of talking explicitly about things- rarely does Jake (or anyone for that matter) come out and say things clearly about how people are. I find it intriguing that it becomes a whole lot clearer and more important after you've read the book. What dya think?


When James says that he disagrees, and that Jake talks emotionally because he is comfortable with Cohn, much like the stream scene, I have to admit I do not quite see it. James says that "Jake feels superior to Cohn, and therefore he feels comfortable around him, and able to express himself", but if he does feel superior to Cohn, then why is this the only time that Jake talks explicitly about his own emotions? I do not think that Jake does this often, and also that Cohn is disliked because people envy him. Cohn comes from a rich family, and is strong physically- because of this people pick on him for the smallest reasons: that he's a Jew, or that he's slightly annoying. And this is why Cohn is trying to show his masculinity (not in this scene, but throughout the novel). Everyone criticizes him, so he feels the need to justify himself. I agree that Cohn "is just being himself", but that by being himself he needs to justify himself. I remember we said once in class that Jake is strong mentally but weak physically, and that Cohn is the opposite. So Cohn is weak mentally, and I think has little confidence and a sensitive ego- when Jake once called him a name, Cohn made him take it back. And Cohn hangs onto Jake because Jake is the only one who doesn't say anything that bad to Cohn out loud. While Jake may show him "in a bad light", I do not think that he is comfortable around him but envious, as Cohn has the physical strength that he lacks. I do agree, however, that "he feels that Cohn doesn't deserve that masculinity."
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I also looked at James' blog about an excerpt from Chapter 3 (Click here to see James' blog)

What I think is important about the excerpt are several ideas that it has:
  • There is a constant mention of ethnicity and race in the novel: everyone has one, and many are introduced right away with them. As if it labels them. So this mention of Flemmish, and it having some importance as to whether Georgette would like Jake is similar to what happens throughout the novel. Everyone judges others based on their race, among other things.
  • This is pretty much the only time Jake "goes out" with someone, and so this is interesting- because here it looks like he wanted the company, and not an actual date. Also, when he says "a vague sentimental idea that it would be nice to eat with some one. It was a long time since I had dined with a poule, and I had forgotten how dull it could be", it looks like he's already starting to regret it. He forgot that for him, people tire him and cause him more trouble than he wants. (Contrast of mood between city and fishing expedition)
  • "We had another bottle of wine and Georgette made a joke. She smiled and showed all her bad teeth, and we touched glasses."
    • - In the novel Jake always describes at least one quirk that people have. For instance, Brett always wrinkles her eyes and says "rot" a lot. Then there was that lady that kept taking off her glasses, cleaning them, and then putting them back on. And Montoya always pats Jake on the shoulder in an embarrassed way. But why does he notice these things?
  • "Its a shame you're sick. We get on well. What's the matter with you, anyway?"  --> When Georgette says this, it's how Brett is too.
    "I got hurt in the war," I said.
    "Oh, that dirty war."
    • even though Georgette didn't fight in the war, she has the same opinion as Jake.
  • "We would probably have gone on and discussed the war and agreed that is was in reality a calamity for civilisation, and perhaps would have been better avoided. I was bored enough."
    • It's interesting, because here he seems to equate war talk with boredom. I'm not really sure what he's getting at, though, but it seems important.
James had some interesting things to say about the excerpt:

He said, "He only says what he feels is necessary, once again giving us an insight into his character. He is a journalist, and therefore feels that there is no need to mince words. He feels that you just need to get the point across to the reader, or in this case, the listener. " And here James hits a point throughout the novel- he never says more than what is necessary. For me, I think the details for Jake help him feel he has a bit of control over his life, and help him detach himself emotionally, a trick he probably has to use when writing as a journalist. In this excerpt, I think this can tie into how he always notices tiny little quirks/faults in people. When Georgette has that smile with her "bad teeth", he could be noticing all these details as an effort to detach himself, from people. He likes company, which is why he goes out with Georgette in the first place, but he doesn't want to get too involved, so he keeps repeating that people can be "dull" and boring.

So I think that this passage is important because as James says, it "provides large amounts of characterisation", but also because it has all these little things that are the same throughout the novel. James mentions one thing that I'm not sure I understand, talking about the vague sentimental idea Jake has: "This shows how he still tries and keeps some semblance of his life before the war, and that he wants to keep living." In the rest of the novel, Jake hangs out with people (at least in my opinion) to lose himself and his problems and just become a part of the crowd; this is why he likes to work and do what everyone else is doing. While I do agree that the vague sentimental idea may be something of the past before the war, I can't remember him ever doing this again. If we keep in mind that Jake never brings anyone out again to hang out with, then this would not be a sign that he wants to keep living- almost the exact opposite. However, I do not think Jake has a suicidal tendency, only that he stops trying to go back to the past later on. He accepts where he is; in the end of the novel things go back to the way they were before- Brett and Mike are back together, Jake is going back to France, but I think his attitude is slightly different. He doesn't try and go back to the way it was before, but just to "go with the flow", if that makes sense.

Monday, October 10, 2011

The Work I've Done

Blog Portfolio Quarter 1


Coverage:


Aug. 8, 2011_The Way Comedies Work
Aug. 10, 2011_"As You Like It" Family Tree Act 1
Aug. 15, 2011_Act 1: the Introduction
Aug. 22, 2011_Writing vs. Acting
Aug. 25, 2011_Sarcasm Keeps us on our Feet
Sept. 5, 2011_New vs. Old
Sept. 7, 2011_Jaques: Antagonist or Not?
Sept. 18, 2011_Comic for As You Like It
Oct. 4, 2011_Clashing, or Identical?
Oct. 9, 2011_TSAR: Allusions in Chapters 11-12
Oct. 9, 2011_Thoughts on "Route March"

Depth:


Jaques: Antagonist or Not?

  • In this blog I looked at the role of Jaques in As You Like It, and I think I explored the subject pretty thoroughly using different examples and situations from the play as well as from the Director's Cut and another essay. Then I looked at Jaques character in different plays. I think I looked in depth at Jaques character- although in the end, I still don't think I understand him completely, or ever will.

Interaction:


New vs. the Old

  • Here I talked about the Globe Theatre Production, but I also looked at Sabrina's blog about it, in which I found her interpretations interesting. In particular I looked at what she mentioned about the Orlando realization of the Rosalind-Ganymede masquerade. I took here statements and questioned them and fleshed them out a bit. She widened my view and I hope I broadened hers.

Discussions:


Sarcasm Keeps us on our Feet

  • I got comments from different people on this blog, and I think I made people think a bit when they read the blog. Through the discussion that followed, I think we all came up with new ideas.

Xenoblogging:


Globe Theatre

  • I liked Elizabeth's post about the production in Globe Theatre, and with the comments I added after I read it, I like to think I helped to develop some of her ideas.

Wildcard:


Jake and I
  • In this blog I played around with the characters (not literally, of course) and just kind of thought about who they were and why all these different characters were included. I think blogs are about thinking, and sharing your thoughts, and even just writing down some things in the hope that you'll come up with new thoughts: and I think this blog kind of follows this idea. I wasn't really sure where I was going when I first started it (sort of like when I first look at a poem for an IOC) and by the end, I had all these ideas. Blogs are about progressing.